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[Hackrf-dev] HackRF-dev Digest, Vol 59, Issue 2
Brian Gieryk
2017-08-02 13:13:48 UTC
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Have you considered fldigi?

Brian
KE6IYC

Sent from my iPhone
G'day everyone !
First thing Is first. Thankyou Dominic for replacing my faulty HackRF One.
That I really appreciate.
I am an Advanced Amateur Radio Operator (Full Call Ham if you like, my call
is VK2WAR.
I was in the Royal Australian Navy, recuperating from multiple injuries,
and subsequently over a dozen surgeries. I am still having surgeries,
albeit minor ones now day, when I got my Licence and started working HF
specifically the 40 meter band, for the most.
I have sold all of my HF equipment. I got sick of arguing with councils
over Antenna issues. Ive moved home multiple times, and even though I
still have a couple of HF Antennas, for instance a Titan DX worth half a
mint, in the back yard, Im firstlhy unable to physicaly put it up, and I
don't want to fight over putting up antennas at my new home with my current
council.
Anyways, I spent a lot of time on HF. Even came second in QC Magazines 2010
competition, for High Power 40 metres.
But one thing I liked was using software to operate my radios. My last HF
radio was a Yaesu FT-950. I had an FT-897 prior to that.
I almoat cried the day I sold my Emtron DX-2SP Amplifier.
I sold all my equipment to purchase Cameras, Audio Equipment, and Video
Switching equipment, to produce podcasts/Vblogs etc. Which I have not
really done, save a few reviews on Youtube, on FPV Racing Drones and
equipment.
Ive spent a lot of time putting drones together, usually because my dominant
right hand is screwed and everything takes so much longer for mw.
Anyways, that's a quick intro. My QRZ page is here
https://qrz.com/db/VK2WAR
I have been using my HackRF mostly for reception. I have tried a couple of
replay attacks and it works well.
GQRX and SDR# are all nice and cool to use to operate the HackRF. But I
have a query.
I love Ham Radio Deluxe. I especially like DM780.
Is there any way that you can get a HackRF working with DM780 especially for
digital modes, which is what It is for. Decoding PSK31, CW, and other
digital modes are so much easier to decode, rather than using software
designed for each specific modulation type. DM780 has it all.
I just tried a trialware version of the latest HRD. It does not recognise
the HackRF.
Is there a way of getting it to? Or do I need to repurchase something like a
signalink, and retransmit signals into DM780 for demodulation/decoding ?
Jason
VK2WAR
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Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 22:50:35 -0700
Subject: Re: [Hackrf-dev] what is the story with gr-osmosdr not
building?
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Hi Dominic,
We're not in a position to support LimeSDR on this mailing list,
I know, I much prefer my HackRF :-). Up to now I've "gotten away" with just
using the packages rather than go into the FOSS dungeon to smelt metal to
cast parts for a lathe so that I can create the tools that I need to get
something done. Consider it an expression of my frustration. So begins my
entry into the third level of hell, perhaps I'll blog about it :-). It does
surprise me that HEAD on a 'major'
package like gr-osmosdr would not even be buildable, (because that is
typically the first test prior to merge a commit, does it still build) but
as I've been digging into it, some of the inter-relationships between
gnuradio, what Ettus started with (aka the uhd API) and the current state of
affairs (about a half dozen SDRs bodged into the framework in one way or
another) that the situation is far from "simple."
Since the HackRF stuff seems to be the most effectively integrated SDR I
just assume all the pros are here who already know all this stuff.
--Chuck
Every day I regret spending money on this LimeSDR unit, and the only
way to talk to it is with 'SoapSDR' driving it through gr-osmosdr.
Now why gr-osmosdr can't drive it directly? Who knows but still I
thought I would rebuild gr-osmosdr from source and it dies horribly
trying to build RTL stuff.
Hi Chuck,
We're not in a position to support LimeSDR on this mailing list,
there's no link between the projects and I don't have access to the
hardware. I don't know if LimeSDR has a support channel, but I would
recommend contacting them or other LimeSDR users as they will likely
have experience with building LimeSDR support for GNU Radio.
Thanks,
Dominic
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 16:00:22 +1000
Subject: Re: [Hackrf-dev] Transmitt
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Perfect thank you !
Sent from my iPhone
Sorry it's suck abroad question s
Can my hack rf Tx a carrier anywhere between 1 MHz and 6ghz ?
Yes.
What software can I use ?
hackrf_transfer -c
Remember, you need to comply with local laws when transmitting.
I have gnu radio installed and I have already received
You can also use a signal source connected to an osmocom_sink block to
transmit.
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 02:49:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [Hackrf-dev] what is the story with gr-osmosdr not
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Builds fine for me. I suggest you try posting on discuss-gnuradio (if that
is your end goal, see below,) however I suggest you first read [1] and [2].
Specifically, list your goal(you mention gr-osmosdr, then the LimeSDR, on
the hackrf mailing list, with no mention of your end goal), what you have
tried sofar(did you build any other pieces of code first? What was the
result of that?), and any error messages you encountered. This will help
people better understand what your trying to do and explain the meaning of
any error messages you are getting.
The LimeSDR is a fairly new device, and the best place to ask questions
about it seems to be the discourse page from myriadrf, found at [3] or you
can visit their wiki found at [4] (However, once again, read [1] first.) It
sounds like your new to Linux, if you just want to listen to radio, perhaps
look at SDRConsole for a native windows program, which has a lower learning
curve, and is closed source.)
[1] http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[2] http://xyproblem.info
[3] https://discourse.myriadrf.org/c/projects/limesdr
[4] https://wiki.myriadrf.org/Lime_Suite
Cheers,
-Anon
Hi Dominic,
We're not in a position to support LimeSDR on this mailing list,
I know, I much prefer my HackRF :-). Up to now I've "gotten away" with just
using the packages rather than go into the FOSS dungeon to smelt metal to
cast parts for a lathe so that I can create the tools that I need to get
something done. Consider it an expression of my frustration. So begins my
entry into the third level of hell, perhaps I'll blog about it :-). It does
surprise me that HEAD on a 'major'
package like gr-osmosdr would not even be buildable, (because that is
typically the first test prior to merge a commit, does it still build) but
as I've been digging into it, some of the inter-relationships between
gnuradio, what Ettus started with (aka the uhd API) and the current state of
affairs (about a half dozen SDRs bodged into the framework in one way or
another) that the situation is far from "simple."
Since the HackRF stuff seems to be the most effectively integrated SDR I
just assume all the pros are here who already know all this stuff.
--Chuck
Every day I regret spending money on this LimeSDR unit, and the only
way to talk to it is with 'SoapSDR' driving it through gr-osmosdr.
Now why gr-osmosdr can't drive it directly? Who knows but still I
thought I would rebuild gr-osmosdr from source and it dies horribly
trying to build RTL stuff.
Hi Chuck,
We're not in a position to support LimeSDR on this mailing list,
there's
no
link between the projects and I don't have access to the hardware. I
don't
know if LimeSDR has a support channel, but I would recommend
contacting
them
or other LimeSDR users as they will likely have experience with
building LimeSDR support for GNU Radio.
Thanks,
Dominic
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:15:00 +1000
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Hi
Hey I was wanting to know what blocks I can install in GNURADIO
I installed GNU-RADIO using ports or macports
sudo install gnuradio
and subsequent
sudo install gr-osmocom
sudo install gr-rtl-sdr
Is there a ports query command that I can get a list of ?gr-<blocks>?
Cheers
Andrew
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 18:32:51 +1000
Subject: Re: [Hackrf-dev] Transmitt
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Ignore that I read up on ports
Andrew
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Andrew Rich VK4TEC
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Hi
Hey I was wanting to know what blocks I can install in GNURADIO
I installed GNU-RADIO using ports or macports
sudo install gnuradio
and subsequent
sudo install gr-osmocom
sudo install gr-rtl-sdr
Is there a ports query command that I can get a list of ?gr-<blocks>?
Cheers
Andrew
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Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2017 12:43:58 -0700
Subject: Re: [Hackrf-dev] what is the story with gr-osmosdr not
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Okay, that was funny.
--Chuck
Builds fine for me. I suggest you try posting on discuss-gnuradio (if
that is your end goal, see below,) however I suggest you first read [1]
and [2].
Specifically, list your goal(you mention gr-osmosdr, then the LimeSDR,
on the hackrf mailing list, with no mention of your end goal), what
you have tried sofar(did you build any other pieces of code first?
What was the result of that?), and any error messages you encountered.
This will help people better understand what your trying to do and
explain the meaning of any error messages you are getting.
The LimeSDR is a fairly new device, and the best place to ask
questions about it seems to be the discourse page from myriadrf, found
at [3] or you can visit their wiki found at [4] (However, once again,
read [1] first.) It sounds like your new to Linux, if you just want to
listen to radio, perhaps look at SDRConsole for a native windows
program, which has a lower learning curve, and is closed source.)
[1] http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[2] http://xyproblem.info
[3] https://discourse.myriadrf.org/c/projects/limesdr
[4] https://wiki.myriadrf.org/Lime_Suite
Cheers,
-Anon
Hi Dominic,
We're not in a position to support LimeSDR on this mailing list,
I know, I much prefer my HackRF :-). Up to now I've "gotten away" with
just using the packages rather than go into the FOSS dungeon to smelt
metal to cast parts for a lathe so that I can create the tools that I
need to get something done. Consider it an expression of my
frustration. So begins my entry into the third level of hell, perhaps
I'll blog about it :-). It does surprise me that HEAD on a 'major'
package like gr-osmosdr would not even be buildable, (because that is
typically the first test prior to merge a commit, does it still build)
but as I've been digging into it, some of the inter-relationships
between gnuradio, what Ettus started with (aka the uhd API) and the
current state of affairs (about a half dozen SDRs bodged into the
framework in one way or another) that the situation is far from
"simple."
Since the HackRF stuff seems to be the most effectively integrated SDR
I just assume all the pros are here who already know all this stuff.
--Chuck
Every day I regret spending money on this LimeSDR unit, and the only
way to talk to it is with 'SoapSDR' driving it through gr-osmosdr.
Now why gr-osmosdr can't drive it directly? Who knows but still I
thought I would rebuild gr-osmosdr from source and it dies horribly
trying to build RTL stuff.
Hi Chuck,
We're not in a position to support LimeSDR on this mailing list,
there's no link between the projects and I don't have access to the
hardware. I don't know if LimeSDR has a support channel, but I would
recommend contacting them or other LimeSDR users as they will likely
have experience with building LimeSDR support for GNU Radio.
Thanks,
Dominic
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Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 15:28:46 +1000
Subject: [Hackrf-dev] Need a hand
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I can't get osmocom source to come up in Mac OS X so I can use my hack rf
I have issued
sudo port install gnuradio +full
sudo port install gr-osmosdr +full
sudo port install hackrf
What am I missing ?
Andrew
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Dominic Spill
2017-08-03 03:18:51 UTC
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On 2 August 2017 at 18:31, vk2war via HackRF-dev <
I have been using my HackRF mostly for reception. I have tried a couple of
replay attacks and it works well.
GQRX and SDR# are all nice and cool to use to operate the HackRF. But I
have a query.
I love Ham Radio Deluxe. I especially like DM780.
Is there any way that you can get a HackRF working with DM780 especially for
digital modes, which is what It is for. Decoding PSK31, CW, and other
digital modes are so much easier to decode, rather than using software
designed for each specific modulation type. DM780 has it all.
As Ham Radio Deluxe is closed source software there is nothing I can do to
add HackRF support to it. I'd love to see more tools support common SDR
platforms through abstraction libraries such as SoapySDR or OsmoSDR. By
using these libraries a single development effort can impact thousands of
users with different hardware.

If the developers of Ham Radio Deluxe, or any other software, would like to
add support for HackRF and other SDR platforms, then I'd be happy to talk
to them about how to do it. Other than that, I'm not able to get this done.

I'm not familiar with amateur digital modes, but I'd be willing to bet
there's other software around that supports them (e.g. fldigi as Brian
suggested).

Thanks,
Dominic
Andrew Rich
2017-08-03 03:36:30 UTC
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I use my hack rf and digital audio loop back programs then pipe the audio to the decoding program

It seems the way

Very little sdr software has inbuilt decode

Gqrx has packet

What did u want to decode

Andrew VK4TEC

Sent from my iPhone
I have been using my HackRF mostly for reception. I have tried a couple of
replay attacks and it works well.
GQRX and SDR# are all nice and cool to use to operate the HackRF. But I
have a query.
I love Ham Radio Deluxe. I especially like DM780.
Is there any way that you can get a HackRF working with DM780 especially for
digital modes, which is what It is for. Decoding PSK31, CW, and other
digital modes are so much easier to decode, rather than using software
designed for each specific modulation type. DM780 has it all.
As Ham Radio Deluxe is closed source software there is nothing I can do to add HackRF support to it. I'd love to see more tools support common SDR platforms through abstraction libraries such as SoapySDR or OsmoSDR. By using these libraries a single development effort can impact thousands of users with different hardware.
If the developers of Ham Radio Deluxe, or any other software, would like to add support for HackRF and other SDR platforms, then I'd be happy to talk to them about how to do it. Other than that, I'm not able to get this done.
I'm not familiar with amateur digital modes, but I'd be willing to bet there's other software around that supports them (e.g. fldigi as Brian suggested).
Thanks,
Dominic
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